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Lara929   United Kingdom
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Last night, as with many other evenings now, there was a hidden police biker on the Snake Pass Sad presumably looking out for the many bikers having evening rideouts now it's lighter.

I decided to be as helpful as I could, even though I was in my car. Near the cop I flashed some on-coming bikers, and gave the thumbs down Thumb Down signal as clearly as I could through the windscreen. I hoped they might realise I was being helpful and maybe I was a biker too, with my thumb thingy. They all nodded at me and one waved, so I think they got it!

A truck drived saved me a ticket once with the very same trick, all the on coming car drivers had not bothered.

Maybe, just maybe, there might be 3 bikers now who think that car drivers can be helpful too??? Would you do the same if in a car?


Or, come to think of it, if you saw a cop when you were on your bike, would you warn on-coming car drivers?

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Re: Being a biker in car [message #165944 is a reply to message #165943] Wed, 23 April 2008 10:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
andy_scouser is currently offline  andy_scouser   United Kingdom
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yep, i dont discriminate between bikes or cars.... i always warn off 'police speed safety cheques'
Re: Being a biker in car [message #165946 is a reply to message #165943] Wed, 23 April 2008 10:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Lara929 wrote on Wed, 23 April 2008 11:15

Last night, as with many other evenings now, there was a hidden police biker on the Snake Pass Sad presumably looking out for the many bikers having evening rideouts now it's lighter.

I decided to be as helpful as I could, even though I was in my car. Near the cop I flashed some on-coming bikers, and gave the thumbs down Thumb Down signal as clearly as I could through the windscreen. I hoped they might realise I was being helpful and maybe I was a biker too, with my thumb thingy. They all nodded at me and one waved, so I think they got it!

A truck drived saved me a ticket once with the very same trick, all the on coming car drivers had not bothered.

Maybe, just maybe, there might be 3 bikers now who think that car drivers can be helpful too??? Would you do the same if in a car?


Or, come to think of it, if you saw a cop when you were on your bike, would you warn on-coming car drivers?


Yep always
Re: Being a biker in car [message #165949 is a reply to message #165946] Wed, 23 April 2008 11:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
RWB929 is currently offline  RWB929   United Kingdom
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Yep would warn any one coming the other way off the speed check.


Re: Being a biker in car [message #165951 is a reply to message #165949] Wed, 23 April 2008 11:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ondablade   Ireland
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Thumbs Up It's routine over here, but you have to be careful - the police took to placing a second guy upstream in hiding and prosecuting people they caught at it for a while.

What it does do is underline how enforcement that's ineffective as a reducer of road deaths and seen to be driven by vested interests,political correctness, stupidity or whatever inevitably erodes respect for and trust in the institutions of a functioning state.

Which can't be good, and contributes to the general sense of pissed off-edness that's around ....

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Re: Being a biker in car [message #165954 is a reply to message #165944] Wed, 23 April 2008 12:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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andy_scouser wrote on Wed, 23 April 2008 10:16

yep, i dont discriminate between bikes or cars.... i always warn off 'police speed safety cheques'


Me too Thumbs Up amazing how many don't though (car drivers that is)

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Re: Being a biker in car [message #165956 is a reply to message #165943] Wed, 23 April 2008 12:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Car or Bike....I signal to all oncoming vehicles that theres a greed camera around the next bend.

Ive just got back from france on Monday and they all flash there lights at you over there. It was like a disco at one point.
Re: Being a biker in car [message #165958 is a reply to message #165956] Wed, 23 April 2008 12:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
hondavee4 is currently offline  hondavee4   United Kingdom
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yep, i always do too Thumbs Up

but you gotta be carefull of kids on a corner of a road telling you to go faster or "pull me a wheelie mister" cos you can bet your bottom dollar theres a copper round the bend Neutral



andy_scouser wrote on Wed, 23 April 2008 10:16

'police speed safety cheques'



Laugh

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Re: Being a biker in car [message #165968 is a reply to message #165958] Wed, 23 April 2008 13:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ondablade   Ireland
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Over here it's probably 90% in favour of this sort of action - not much time for shit, and a deeply ingrained suspicion of authority.

Always amazed at the size of the 'oughter be a law lock 'em up' brigade in England. Although with the advent of a bit of prosperity we seem to be rapidly growing our own too....
Re: Being a biker in car [message #165971 is a reply to message #165943] Wed, 23 April 2008 14:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Used to be a pretty common behaviour down here, then it became an offence and, to add on top of that, they began a brainwashing campaign on the sound of "you could be signalling a child kidnapper the presence of a police patrol" (no s***t).
It seemed to work since nowadays only bikers and truckers seem to bother at all. And even among bikers it's becoming rarer by the day. Or maybe it has just to do with how selfish the average Italian car driver has become.
On Sunday I stopped to help a couple on stranded Mazda 6 (brand new car) and they could not believe that someone had actually pulled over, despite the presence of an enormous cloud of smoke. So if you own a diesel Mazda 6 be wary! Laugh
Re: Being a biker in car [message #165988 is a reply to message #165971] Wed, 23 April 2008 18:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: Being a biker in car [message #165992 is a reply to message #165988] Wed, 23 April 2008 19:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I drive a truck for a living and as both a biker and a truck driver (and car driver too)I warn everyone I can of a police speed trap.
The best warning Ive had was someone had stopped and put up a sign made ( I presume) out of cardboard warning of the plod.

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Re: Being a biker in car [message #165996 is a reply to message #165943] Wed, 23 April 2008 19:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ok, I'll be honest. RollEyes

When I'm in the car I don't let eveybody know, depends how I feel at the time really. I'm afraid the standard of driving has gone right down hill over the last few years, observation being the biggest weakness. If they don't see them in time, then they were not paying enough attention to what they're doing and probably deserve the points.

So F'k em. Tongue

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Re: Being a biker in car [message #165999 is a reply to message #165956] Wed, 23 April 2008 19:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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LozVTR wrote on Wed, 23 April 2008 12:20

Car or Bike....I signal to all oncoming vehicles that theres a greed camera around the next bend.

Ive just got back from france on Monday and they all flash there lights at you over there. It was like a disco at one point.



Thumbs Up The first time I went to France on a bike was about 30 years ago and they were doing it then - cars & bikes - and it took me a while to work out what was going on. Confused Blush

The worst one though was a Spanish lorry driver who tried to warn me of a speed trap by weaving all over the road in front of me. I thought he was trying to kill me eek so I accelerated past him as fast as I could (2 up + far too much luggage on a 650 Yamaha) ... straight into the sights of the two Spanish coppers hiding under the bridge up ahead - one of whom was pointing a rifle at me! eek SO I got done didn't I? Laugh Laugh Laugh

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Re: Being a biker in car [message #166001 is a reply to message #165999] Wed, 23 April 2008 20:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ondablade   Ireland
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Thumbs Up It's probably not a lot worse, but I think to your point Q that speed limits and congestion have created a generation of drivers much more conditioned than before to tailgate the vehicle in front (after all that time in traffic jams they get lonely if the gap opens to more than six feet), to be half asleep on the job (bored silly) and to (since it's the 'I'm worth it' generation) presume that they are expert/there's no serious skill to driving/riding.

There was a sense in the 70s that it was Ok to 'press on'if you knew what you were doing, but that driving well mattered and wasn't just a matter of a week's lessons...
Re: Being a biker in car [message #166004 is a reply to message #165943] Wed, 23 April 2008 20:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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When out on the bike do you...[ 11 votes ]
1. never acknowledge other riders 0 / 0%
2. a discrete nod for like minded riders on similar bikes 5 / 45%
3. go the whole hog and remove the go faster hand and wave 0 / 0%
4. usually road permitting will nod/wave if provoked by other rider doing the same 0 / 0%
5. nod/wave as per mood but never bother for HD's or BMW/Tourer types who with a few exceptions seem to look down on 'lunatic' sportsbike rider 6 / 55%

If I spot a mobile whether in the car or on a bike I only tend to warn other bikes of whats ahead for maybe the next 2 or 3 miles as I figure given the amount of traffic around, most cars are unlikely to need help keeping below 60 Wink

Something that does get on my tits sometimes is being on the receiving end of a car or biker flashing their lights at me and making me slow down for upto the next 5 miles only to realise they were in all likelihood only saying hello Head Bang The thumbs down in addition to a flash helps avoid this problem but i cant help being human and playing on the side of caution if I only get the flash think

** a poll along similar lines **

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Re: Being a biker in car [message #166010 is a reply to message #166004] Wed, 23 April 2008 22:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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yep, i always do too. car or bikes.. here in France,
i've had a good few car drivers flash me in my car when the plod is around, Thumbs Up

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Re: Being a biker in car [message #166011 is a reply to message #166004] Wed, 23 April 2008 22:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
pecker is currently offline  pecker   United Kingdom
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yes always warn all oncoming traffic

have been saved myself a good few times by cars flashing me

its a great feeling pottering pass plod with his laser speed gun and giving him a smug wave Wink
Re: Being a biker in car [message #166018 is a reply to message #166011] Wed, 23 April 2008 23:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: Being a biker in car [message #166041 is a reply to message #165943] Thu, 24 April 2008 16:49 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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I always let all others know of a speed trap, with headlight flash and thumb down,if time.
As for car drivers, there seems to be an increase in them flashing you, only to slow you down I think(anti bikers)...no police at all. Anyone else noticed this?
As for nodding to other bikers, I always do but dont look back at them to see if they reciprocate, thus avoiding the feeling of rejection...sensitive soul that I am Wink
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