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Re: Kerm's new project bike is.... [message #246398 is a reply to message #246375] Sun, 17 April 2011 20:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kermit is currently offline  Kermit   United Kingdom
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SP2 Riley wrote on Sun, 17 April 2011 15:12
what ya reckon to this wheels wise


That looks absolute pants compared to mine the lines are all wrong, wrong colour and doesn't look like its a fast one RollEyes


oh and the wheels are not my thing, I like standard colours or black smile


Re: Kerm's new project bike is.... [message #246411 is a reply to message #246398] Sun, 17 April 2011 22:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hi Kermit,

Yeah agree, those wheels look awful Thumb Down

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Re: Kerm's new project bike is.... [message #246440 is a reply to message #246411] Mon, 18 April 2011 16:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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so you wont be doing that then think Laugh


i like to keep you on ya toes kerm Wink
Re: Kerm's new project bike is.... [message #246492 is a reply to message #246440] Tue, 19 April 2011 00:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I'm on my toes, its factory pro thats pissing me off.

Placed the order last week and while I know it'll take a week or two for parts to arrive from the US and even made allowances for their website being the biggest pile of shite in web design since the early 90's aside from an automated email from paypals merchant service, I've heard nothing from them. I'd have expected like most online retailers I'd have got some confirmation of order from their email address or even by now a "your order has been shipped" but 6 days later nothing even though I emailed them asking if they got it ok No

It'll probably just turn up in a week or so but i do hope their kits are better than their customer service.

Re: Kerm's new project bike is.... [message #246565 is a reply to message #246492] Tue, 19 April 2011 22:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I take it back Grin

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Had another run out of it tonight and have to say it disparately needs this stuff as unless I'm on the gas or on the overrun (both of which sound nice and feel fine) its very stuttery and annoying which in mind I'd guess will be down to the current needles rattling around in the worn emulsion tubes.

[Updated on: Sat, 23 April 2011 23:46]

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Re: Kerm's new project bike is.... [message #246797 is a reply to message #246565] Fri, 22 April 2011 21:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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My parts have now been in the air from San Francisco for 50+ hrs now so I'm assuming they're coming by airship RollEyes



So while I wait for the good ship UPS Hindenburg to dock I've prepared the bike for the jets arrival.

Tanks and Airbox removed

http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/KermitX/M750/M750_157.jpg

http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/KermitX/M750/M750_158.jpg

The circled banjos from the oil cooler are the anti-carb icing warmers which I've heard don't work that well but my plan is to get rid of them as they prevent the oil cooler being dropped down which helps with getting the belt covers off for inspection/replacement. Your free to search the forum of evidence I've ever ridden in sub 10C temps to help you work out if I should keep them smile
http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/KermitX/M750/M750_159.jpg

Ideally what I need is 5 short banjo bolts without the unthreaded bit. I think these banjo bolts are M10 x 1.0 so maybe some normal bolts will do fine to blank them off. Also need an M8 with 1.0 (or maybe 0.75) thread for smaller line from the take off on previous pic
http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/KermitX/M750/M750_160.jpg

http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/KermitX/M750/M750_161.jpg

Carbs seem pretty clean inside but will give them a good going over after recording here that the idle screws are currently set a TWO TURNS OUT Grin
http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/KermitX/M750/M750_162.jpg

An extra pic with my new camera bought on impulse today
http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/KermitX/M750/M750_163.jpg

[Updated on: Fri, 22 April 2011 21:28]

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Re: Kerm's new project bike is.... [message #246868 is a reply to message #246797] Sat, 23 April 2011 17:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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50hrs lol

odd way to heat carbs but its oil cooled only so no hot water Wink


thought an electric heater like suzuki use would have been easier and cheaper and there may be a way with the banjo bolts removed as it could thread in there then a couple of wires and a relay.

but if its sunny days only Cool

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Re: Kerm's new project bike is.... [message #246892 is a reply to message #246868] Sat, 23 April 2011 21:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Exactly + many of the carb'd Monsters I'd seen don't have these so excess weight Laugh

Cleaned up the carb rubbers and jubilee clips both of which were in excellent condtion
http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/KermitX/M750_164.jpg

Overview
http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/KermitX/M750_165.jpg

Cleaned the carbs externally and internally with the best part of a whole can of carb cleaner and a can of air (PC air duster) which I happened to have handy Wink
http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/KermitX/M750_166.jpg

The emulsion tubes aren't obviously oval so didn't try take a pic but I can detect ovalness there and suspect they have worn a fair bit all over as the needles do look a bit loose when inserted
http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/KermitX/M750_167.jpg

The main reason I want to get rid of the carb de-icing gear is that without those pipes you can do this with the oil cooler which helps getting the belt covers off.

I've re-checked the tension on belts [which your supposed to do after fitting new ones and using for a 100 miles or so] and the lower one was a touch slack (1mm extra give than ideal) so have re-adjusted it.
http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/KermitX/M750_168.jpg

[Updated on: Sat, 23 April 2011 21:24]

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Re: Kerm's new project bike is.... [message #246913 is a reply to message #246892] Sat, 23 April 2011 23:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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bikes bloody spotless kerm

hope the carb kit does what your hoping (think it will be really good)and make it fun to ride
Re: Kerm's new project bike is.... [message #246928 is a reply to message #246913] Sun, 24 April 2011 08:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Let me know if you ever sell it smile
Re: Kerm's new project bike is.... [message #248766 is a reply to message #246928] Fri, 13 May 2011 00:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Your jets and needles will turn up[ 2 votes ]
1. TOMORROW - with a full refund of the £13,50 [express] handling fee 0 / 0%
2. NEVER - Some thieving gypo Parcelfarce employee has em at home and doesn't know wtf they are 0 / 0%
3. WEEK or TWO - battered 2 / 100%
4. OTHER - please specify 0 / 0%

Wall Wall

http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/KermitX/M750/M750_169.png

Been sat like that for almost 3 weeks now Wall Wall

Although from what little I've gathered calling initially customs then parcelfarce and finally getting one meanful return call stating it was cleared within about 30mins and telling me the customs charges are vat £23.36 Wall and parcelforce handling fee of £13.50 RollEyes no one has yet managed to find the parcel or locate its whereabouts although it does seem likley its still at their international hub in Coventry either nicked or lying under a conveyor belt RollEyes


In the meantime the pipe plugs arrived last week which were the only thing I could find with a suitable M10 x 1.00m fine thread but do think they look good. In reality I could have left the bottoms of the carbs open (its just a sealed chamber under the float bowl) or used some rubber plugs but I like tasteful ways to squander £15 on bolts Laugh
http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/KermitX/M750/M750_170.jpg

The other bolts (M8 x 1.00) where harder to get as initially the ones sent by the first ebay supplier (of which there's only one offering this size thread) sent ones where the thread ran out and was smooth 4-5mm from the head. These bolts had to be kept short (4-5mm and 7mm) otherwise they wouldn't fully seat in the casing but lukily another online fastener came good with threads to the head and cut them down and fitted tonight which now means the oil cooler is sealed again and can be dropped down easily for future belt checks/changes or front valve work
http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/KermitX/M750/M750_171.jpg

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Re: Kerm's new project bike is.... [message #248769 is a reply to message #248766] Fri, 13 May 2011 08:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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see what you can do when you spend your time constructively rather than pissing night shift workers off with silly impossible to solve quiz's Laugh you have totally F*****d up my sleep patterns Wink
pucker job Thumbs Up Thumbs Up
Re: Kerm's new project bike is.... [message #249265 is a reply to message #248769] Wed, 18 May 2011 16:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Finally after many phone calls and emails I've got it to my local depot. Fingers crossed that "revised charges to be paid" which was added shortly after I spoke to the lady who seems to have done all the work and let me know it was on its way to Leeds. One of the last things I mentioned to her is that while I'm of course going to pay the customs charges, I was determined not to pay parcelforces £13.50 handling fee. She did say at the time she's not sure i could do that but maybe she checked and realised waiving them would be the right thing to do.

Also notice how its made to look like customs had the parcel for 3+ weeks while I know it was parcelforces f***up and that customs cleared the item in 30mins or so RollEyes

Will try go pick them up after work as I don't trust parcelforce to get it the final 12 miles to my work + I might need to argue the handling fee in person Grin

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Re: Kerm's new project bike is.... [message #249301 is a reply to message #249265] Wed, 18 May 2011 23:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Not going to go into the Parcel Farce again right now other than to say I ended up having to pay the lot but I do have evidence on my parcel that the original custom charge sticker was stuck on the parcel on the 24th April but another one was stuck on over the top 1 day ago with the "revised" (but same) charges but later date....me thinks they're trying to cover their backs RollEyes



Weds 18th May 2011

The kit including the separately purchased emulsion tubes on top
http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/KermitX/M750/M750_171b.jpg

Instructions are very concise but lots of info there including example setups at the bottom. There's also a separate sheet explaining diagnosing various symptoms and methodologies like you'll find on Factory Pros website
http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/KermitX/M750/M750_172.jpg
I marked those sizes myself and could have done with a magnifying glass

New emulsion tubes fitted (old one top right). These are steel unlike the old brass ones that wear too easily often as soon as 5000 miles according to notes
http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/KermitX/M750/M750_173.jpg


My best guess of jets now fitted, float height adjusted and opted for 3 turns out on mix as thats what 3 of the 4 example real world setups used
http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/KermitX/M750/M750_174.jpg
this is partly for my records in case I need to alter something


Kit contained replacement float bowl bolts that match my pipe plugs nicely
http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/KermitX/M750/M750_175.jpg


The needles are now titanium (old ones looked like alloy) so should resist wear a lot better. Profiles very different from stock. I've set the needle clips at position 2 from the top
http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/KermitX/M750/M750_176.jpg


Airbox back on
http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/KermitX/M750/M750_177.jpg


and the rest
http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/KermitX/M750/M750_178.jpg


Airbox had restrictive rubber snorkels before. Kit recommends removing these. An alternative more dramatic gain is to dremel a large open section on the top cover but I'm not ready to go down that route
http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/KermitX/M750/M750_179.jpg


Back together. Gave it a few bursts of the starter to get fuel in the bowls and it did fire up but left it there as it was 10pm and I have neighbours Laugh
http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/KermitX/M750/M750_180.jpg

[Updated on: Wed, 18 May 2011 23:14]

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Re: Jet Kit tunning [message #249545 is a reply to message #249540] Sun, 22 May 2011 12:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I won't be any help at all but are the new main jets larger than STD as the new cans would no doubt need them. Is there a dyno shop near you, maybe it's worth getting the O2 checked out throughout the rev range and guestimate jets accordingly?
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hmm it looks like it needs more air to me so maybe a bit more mixture screw out (half turn+)

but it may need a dyno run
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Did you do the plug chop after high revs?
I always find that you get a clue as to if the bike is rich or weak in the mixture by travel at slightly above mid revs and grabbing a handful of throttle...........once in the rev range that relates to the misfire or incorrect mixture slowly close the throttle.......if the bike accelerates slightly better then the mixture is weak if it makes no difference then the mixture is rich.
By the sounds of it i would say the mixture is weak, but this weakness at the top end could be compounded if the needles are supplying a slightly weak mixture in the midrange.
I would raise the needles a notch and go up one size on the main jets and try it.
The difference in main jet size is so minimal i would think the needles will help nudge the mixture in the right direction.
Re: Jet Kit tunning [message #249560 is a reply to message #249557] Sun, 22 May 2011 19:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I'd try that 140, if it's running lean, that'd do it. But if it's running rich, which doesn't seem likely looking at that plug, then it'll be obvious.....
Re: Jet Kit tunning [message #249564 is a reply to message #249560] Sun, 22 May 2011 19:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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There is a simple test you can perform to get a closer idea Kermit....



You can perform a "roll-off" test from about 4000rpm to full throttle then snap it back to 75% throttle.

Do it when the bike is warm/hot.

Taken from the Mikuni site, but basically the same in principle for other carbs.........

"Let the engine accelerate for a couple of seconds until it has settled in and is pulling hard. Quickly roll the throttle off to about the 7/8ths position. When you do this, the mixture richens slightly for a second or so.
If the engine gains power as you roll the throttle off, then the main jet is too small and you need to fit a larger one.
If the engine staggers slightly or has a hard hesitation, then the main jet is too large and you need to fit a smaller one."

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Re: Jet Kit tunning [message #249566 is a reply to message #249564] Sun, 22 May 2011 19:39 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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All good tips, I'll try them out next time I get a chance to spend a few hours with the bike although I did have a bit of a play around after the F1.

I tried putting the snorkals back on the airbox which I'm guessing would have the effect of richening up the mix a little bit but my test ride was inconclusive although in a dual carriageway (into a strong headwind) I accelerated upto about 60-65mph but it wasn't wanting to go much faster even though I did try going off and back on the throttle although not specifically as per Quazi's guide.

Bugger it, going to try a 140 and take it from there as i reckon I can get the bowls off without taking the carbs totally off.....time me starting now Grin

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