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Kermit is currently offline  Kermit   United Kingdom
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I did a 1/2hr kart session with my brother at the weekend and while hire karts with 4 stroke engines are pretty slow compared to the real thing, it was fun and my brother does seem tempted to maybe buy another one as he used to have a 100cc 2S Britain Kart which I got the odd go in on practice days and they are a match for bikes imo but if I bought one of the later model karts I'd feel guilty if I didn't get a small kart of my son so have to look at that side of things.

I've looked on ebay at Cadet karts (aimed at 8-12 years) and there's a good few about, not bad on the prices but a few classes to choose from with the most likely one being ones that have 60cc 2 stroke comer engines which are sealed but there maybe 3 other types of engine class/chasis and its difficult trying to work out which ones are still legal for races at tracks near me and which might only be good for practice days.

Anyway, the point of this post is to ask if anyone here does karting themselves or their kid(s) and if I can ask a few questions? smile

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Re: Does anyone here (or their kids) do Karting? [message #285034 is a reply to message #285027] Wed, 16 July 2014 20:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I go once every 3 / 4 months, but only to the hire places..

I am here in a couple of weeks time with 49 other bikers for a little challenge... lol

http://www.capitalkarts.com/
Re: Does anyone here (or their kids) do Karting? [message #285126 is a reply to message #285034] Thu, 24 July 2014 12:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Bought one of the 60cc Comer engine cadet karts a few days ago which I should be picking up this evening smile

So far, I've only told my brother so the mrs and more important son know nothing Hide

My son will love it as it is but will probably purchase a set of these stickers for it as he does tend to support Alonso when we watch F1 much to my annoyance



[Updated on: Thu, 24 July 2014 12:55]

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Re: Does anyone here (or their kids) do Karting? [message #285134 is a reply to message #285126] Thu, 24 July 2014 17:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Kermit wrote on Thu, 24 July 2014 12:45
will probably purchase a set of these stickers for it as he does tend to support Alonso when we watch F1 much to my annoyance






Laugh His mum's told him to do that Thumbs Up


He's gonna love that Kart Thumbs Up

Re: Does anyone here (or their kids) do Karting? [message #285139 is a reply to message #285134] Thu, 24 July 2014 21:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Have picked it up its and on arrival back home it passed the mum and grandfather approval test even though that was the first they knew of it Grin

Connor is at his grandmothers till tomorrow evening so doesn't know yet but I'm hoping aside from the excitment he'll stop bothering me with nonsense about joining a local junior football team Laugh

It'll probably be a month before he gets out in it which is enough time to give the once over, clean it a bit (wd40 etc) and respray the exhaust but other than that its a great little kart, starts first or second pull and has that proper 2 stroke smell that Pipe amoung others know and love

http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/KermitX/Kart/Kart1.jpg~original

http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/KermitX/Kart/Kart2.jpg~original

http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/KermitX/Kart/Kart3.jpg~original

http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/KermitX/Kart/Kart4.jpg~original

Now have to sort a helmet, suit, trolley etc out then maybe, just maybe, one for me + a trailer as this one just fits the back of the car with the rear seat down but no way of squeezing two karts in there RollEyes

[Updated on: Fri, 25 July 2014 16:24]

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Re: Does anyone here (or their kids) do Karting? [message #285142 is a reply to message #285139] Thu, 24 July 2014 22:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Blimey that really looks the business,that seat needs some padding tho Laugh
How old is your boy K think
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He's 9 slaz. Those seats do look like they need padding but they're designed to fit snuggly and so if he fits it well it shouldn't need padding unlike the the fun karts you get at turn up and go karting places where the seat is made to fit the largest common demoniator and so even the likes of me find 10-20mins a bit uncomfortable as you get slung from side to side at each corner.

If the seat doesn't fit well, I'll have to buy one that does as they come in various sizes and that make (Tillet) is the one I recall as being the make to have, a bit like recarro seats in saloon car racing

[Updated on: Thu, 24 July 2014 23:13]

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Re: Does anyone here (or their kids) do Karting? [message #285144 is a reply to message #285142] Thu, 24 July 2014 22:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Cool as f**k Cool Thumbs Up

Re: Does anyone here (or their kids) do Karting? [message #285145 is a reply to message #285144] Thu, 24 July 2014 23:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Fare play mate,whatever happened to a whip n top,for a prezzy Laugh
He's a lucky lad Thumbs Up
Re: Does anyone here (or their kids) do Karting? [message #285157 is a reply to message #285145] Fri, 25 July 2014 16:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Oh yes, that will bounce him off the walls when he sees it I'm sure, well done mate. Thumbs Up
Re: Does anyone here (or their kids) do Karting? [message #285166 is a reply to message #285157] Sun, 27 July 2014 12:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Just so long as it isn't tyre walls he's bouncing off Laugh

This is taken a few mins after his initial reaction which we have on video
http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/KermitX/Kart/Kart5.jpg~original

Have relocated the pedals a little bit further back. Handily these pedals allow such adjustment and have roller bearings which I had to knock out of their old position (arrowed), freeze and relocate after lubing. Interestingly, those 3 large washers either side of pedals pivots have a small roller bearing washer in middle. Had never seen such a thin roller bearing before but they work a treat at keep action smooth Thumbs Up
http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/KermitX/Kart/Kart7.jpg~original

Same on throttle side and have used new s/s bolts and nuts where possible. I've taken the precaution on the throttle stop bolt and set it to stop at about 50-60% thottle as the first time he gets in it, I don't want him going mad given he'll have only used 'fun' karts which I reckon are probably 3 times slower than a comer cadet kart
http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/KermitX/Kart/Kart8.jpg~original

Engines are sealed and can only be serviced by authorised dealers in a worthy effort to keep costs down
http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/KermitX/Kart/Kart9.jpg~original

Seat had quite a lot of old holes in it from different mounting position and 2x2KG lead weights. I've filled these with epoxy in readiness for refitting in a good position for Connor
http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/KermitX/Kart/Kart10.jpg~original

Have cleaned the exhaust and now sprayed it - this is first light priming coat of VHT spray, final coat is now on and drying as I type
http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/KermitX/Kart/Kart11.jpg~original

The ebay list (so far) RollEyes
http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/KermitX/Kart/Kart12.jpg~original

[Updated on: Sun, 27 July 2014 12:16]

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Re: Does anyone here (or their kids) do Karting? [message #285167 is a reply to message #285166] Sun, 27 July 2014 17:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Kermit wrote on Sun, 27 July 2014 12:12


Interestingly, those 3 large washers either side of pedals pivots have a small roller bearing washer in middle. Had never seen such a thin roller bearing before but they work a treat at keep action smooth




Thumbs Up I have these on one of my tripod heads and it was the first time I'd seen them as well.

He's a very lucky lad. I expect to see him on an F1 grid in 10 years time Thumbs Up

Re: Does anyone here (or their kids) do Karting? [message #285168 is a reply to message #285167] Sun, 27 July 2014 18:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Looks like quite a bit of bang for the buck.
Re: Does anyone here (or their kids) do Karting? [message #285175 is a reply to message #285168] Sun, 27 July 2014 21:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I should get rid of the Andrex ... Mick Doohan piss taking territory ..... lol

When you get to the 250 two strokes .... I have seen RS250 engines in these carts so if you get to that stage i would be a wealth of knowledge.

To be fair, if you have a 250 two stroke in a cart then your on the path and flying for sure.

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Re: Does anyone here (or their kids) do Karting? [message #285177 is a reply to message #285175] Sun, 27 July 2014 23:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Have been discussing options with my brother on karts for us and keep looking at adult karts for sale then at the last minute not bidding and seeing some nice looking ones going for a song but I'm picky in wanting clutch and ideally electric start even though that might add a few kilo's it doesn't bother me, 115cc 2 stroke weighing 132kg or so including driver is more than crazy enough for me for starters Grin

I'm interested in Rotax Max (125cc) or TKM's (115cc) with no gearbox as don't want the hassle of changing gear on short twisty circuits but ideally want electric start and a clutch (like fuin karts only more bite) as that makes starting a hell of a lot easier and guess it might help save the piston if you lock the rear on heavy braking.

My brother however, wants a 125 gearbox kart with one of the plus points on these karts being they have front brakes but they get expensive. As far as I'm aware, many of the 125cc (and 250cc) engines are based on motorcycle engines so I guess there's a lot of cross knowledge between karts and bikes although I'd imagine rules limiting tuning possabilites in the 'affordable' classes might mean crossover of tuning parts might be limited.

Problem I have is if I get a kart is I'm thinking I'd need a trailer as I did get my sons Cadet kart on the mondea ok with the rear seats down but there's no room for another but I do remember when my brother used to kart (100cc Britian class) 15 odd years ago, that we strapped the kart to a roof rack and that worked fine so thats one option smile

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Re: Does anyone here (or their kids) do Karting? [message #285178 is a reply to message #285177] Sun, 27 July 2014 23:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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This was a nice one but it was getting out of my price range (ideally <£600 for starters) and the seller ended early I guess nervous about potentially not reaching £1500 or so think

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/rotax-max-kart-/221496778310 - click original listing and check the Rotax engine out.....is that similar engine layout to any current or past race bikes?

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Re: Does anyone here (or their kids) do Karting? [message #285183 is a reply to message #285178] Mon, 28 July 2014 08:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Have they banned Avgas yet in carting circles?
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99% sure in the UK gearbox & non gearbox classes you have to use pump fuel with no additives but can't speak for the world series karts as I'm already overloaded with too much info atm trying to work out how to get Connor started, at which track and when Laugh

Lots of pdf regulations as well a technical engine and chassis fiches to download here https://www.msauk.org/site/cms/contentCategoryView.asp?categ ory=601

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Re: Does anyone here (or their kids) do Karting? [message #285211 is a reply to message #285187] Wed, 30 July 2014 12:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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and one for me RollEyes

http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/KermitX/Kart/TKM_Kart1.jpg~original

I have the wheels, front/rear/side bumpers/pods but had to remove them to get it in the car...still have to buy a trailer suitable to carry two karts
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Oh the poor lad cant have anything on his own Laugh

Looking good fellas Thumbs Up
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