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Routers [message #294292] Thu, 21 April 2016 22:15 Go to next message
slaz is currently offline  slaz   United Kingdom
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Are all routers the same,i've just got a Sagemcom Model 2704N,
i did have a BT Home Hub 3.0 think
Re: Routers [message #294300 is a reply to message #294292] Fri, 22 April 2016 11:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kermit is currently offline  Kermit   United Kingdom
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No they're not all the same but all more or less do the same thing and some simply doing it faster (wifi), more distance (wifi range) or offer more features in a similar fashion to a CB500 and a CBR1000RR both getting you from A to B on 2 wheels but one does it faster with more bells and whistles Wink

The router model you've seems ok in terms of supporting the 'N' standard of wifi but only 100mbit wired network ports instead of 1000mbit (1Gbit) which is becoming more standard these days but its probably fine for your needs although it'll be closer to a CB500 than a CBR1000RR in terms of cost to Plusnet.

http://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2015/01/isp-plusnet-lau nch-faster-hub-zero-2704n-broadband-router-full-specs.html

See how it goes and bear in mind you your wifi name when you swap over the routers will be different from the old BT hub
Re: Routers [message #298300 is a reply to message #294300] Mon, 18 September 2017 21:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
slaz is currently offline  slaz   United Kingdom
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I have a Firestick with all the usual malarkey loaded on it,
now on a website i'm on they reckon the buffering and general
crapness of the stick is due to the Plusnet router,which i have,
so the Q is,,,,
If i was to upgrade (spend money) Wall what would be a better alternative
Cheers Baza

BTW Go easy on my pocket Wink
Re: Routers [message #298301 is a reply to message #298300] Mon, 18 September 2017 21:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
slaz is currently offline  slaz   United Kingdom
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Around £40 tops Wink
Re: Routers [message #298302 is a reply to message #298301] Tue, 19 September 2017 07:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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slaz wrote on Mon, 18 September 2017 22:34
Around £40 tops Wink
Look up TP-Link routers. They are pretty good for the price and fit your budget. Thumbs Up
Re: Routers [message #298306 is a reply to message #298302] Wed, 20 September 2017 18:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kermit is currently offline  Kermit   United Kingdom
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When you mention buffering etc, is this from legit streaming sites like Amazon, Netflix and BBC or not so legit?

if the later it might not be the wifi strength from the router thats the problem and more with the site your streaming from having issues. If Amazon/BBC stream ok then I'd say save your £40.

Also what sort of distance is the firestick from the router and any walls involved?
Re: Routers [message #298314 is a reply to message #298306] Thu, 21 September 2017 15:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
slaz is currently offline  slaz   United Kingdom
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The sticks loaded with Kodi,so things are'nt quite straight,
So the sticks in the lounge and the routers in the bedroom upstairs,
about 30feet in distance,so a couple of walls,and a floor
Re: Routers [message #298324 is a reply to message #298314] Fri, 22 September 2017 12:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kermit is currently offline  Kermit   United Kingdom
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Still need to test if its the walls/floor reducing the wifi signal to the point it can't stream over the wifi or if its the streaming sites that can't keep up with demand.

Do you have a tv in the bedroom you can test stick on nearer the router?
Or within the stick (probably not kodi itself) does it have a facility to perform a network test that will maybe be able to show how fast its wifi is?
or perhaps if the site offers web based streaming, try stream on your PC (which I assume is wired network) and see if it streams ok
or does the firesticks Amazon Prime have the option to TEST streaming free content even without a prime account which I assume you don't have as you can more or less be sure Amazon streaming would be imune to slow down like iplayer and the like.


One option is to extend the wifi range with a network extender of which there are two basic types.

1) One plugs into wall socket mid way between the routers wifi and the lounge so perhaps upstairs or downstairs hall and so can pick up the original router wifi signal and boost it to its range
2) A powerline wifi booster. I have one of these which consists of 2 x wall sockets. You plug one in to a power socket (ideally not extension cable/gang) next to the router and connect it with a network lead direct to the router. The other one plugs into a wall socket were you need the wifi which would be the lounge. It then uses your house electrical system to relay a network connection and provide a new wifi network which will be different name to the original one but as its 'wired' it should be a fairly good signal.

Have a look here for options.

https://www.cclonline.com/category/506/Networking/Wireless-A ccess-Points/?utm_source=dropdown&utm_medium=dropdown-li nk&utm_campaign=networking/wireless-access-points

This is what I have (about £50) as not only did I want a stronger wifi signal upstairs but this model also has a network port which I wanted in order to plug our bedrooms TV Tivo into a network point as the tivo doesnt have wifi but can stream recorded TV programs from our other main lounge VM TV box.
Re: Routers [message #298327 is a reply to message #298324] Sat, 23 September 2017 21:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
slaz is currently offline  slaz   United Kingdom
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Cheers for your reply K,just checking out my options,
talking to the Mrs and she was saying,that the internet
was really slow when she's using her iphone,
(reading the papers and YT stuff)
I'll get back to when,,,,IF i sort it Thumbs Up
Re: Routers [message #298351 is a reply to message #298327] Thu, 28 September 2017 21:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
slaz is currently offline  slaz   United Kingdom
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A quick daft Q time,mine is the Plusnet,i think the Sky one is my
neighbours,which reads available,if i click on his,,,,would he know think

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Re: Routers [message #298352 is a reply to message #298351] Thu, 28 September 2017 21:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kermit is currently offline  Kermit   United Kingdom
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Most routers in their management page will show "devices connected" if your the type that looks at that sort of thing, chances are your neighbour isn't but its academic anyway as if you click to connect to it, its going to prompt you for his WPA2 password and unless you ask him what his password is, you could be there for a million years trying every possible combo of letters/numbers.

Re: Routers [message #298353 is a reply to message #298352] Thu, 28 September 2017 21:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Kermit wrote on Thu, 28 September 2017 21:44
Most routers in their management page will show "devices connected" if your the type that looks at that sort of thing, chances are your neighbour isn't but its academic anyway as if you click to connect to it, its going to prompt you for his WPA2 password and unless you ask him what his password is, you could be there for a million years trying every possible combo of letters/numbers.


Hmmm no mate i'm not that type,i was checking the signal strength,as you suggested,
and noticed mine was "Fair" his was "Very Good",,and only asked just to see if there
might of been any improvement (just for fun)and then i would of unclicked his,as i would'nt
ask him for water in the desert
Re: Routers [message #298354 is a reply to message #298353] Fri, 29 September 2017 00:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Laugh fair enough

His router may be upstairs or even if in similar location to yours perhaps the diagonal path signal woudl take from his house to yours possibly through less wall might explain why his appears better.

Even so, without knowing whats what his side its not much of a test
Re: Routers [message #298355 is a reply to message #298354] Fri, 29 September 2017 00:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kermit is currently offline  Kermit   United Kingdom
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This is a cheap (£10) wifi extender. It would help IF you have a power outlet halfway between your router and your firestick (bedroom upstairs) so perhaps in the hall somewhere.
https://www.cclonline.com/product/205284/EW-7438RPNMINI/Wire less-Access-Points/Edimax-EW-7438RPn-Mini-N300-Mini-Wi-Fi-Ex tender/Access-Point/Wi-Fi-Bridge/NET2409/

What this type does is as long as its in a place with good signal it picks up the original signal then amplies it around its own radius. You could perhaps use your smartphone to determine the wifi signal strength in various locations to determine a good location (near power socket)

if you have an iphone, try something like this app to see signal strength

https://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/speedsmart-speed-test-wifi-m obile-network-test/id366593092?mt=8

if android, there will be plenty of similar type apps in google play store
Re: Routers [message #298357 is a reply to message #298355] Fri, 29 September 2017 22:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thanks for taking the time with your "Info,,and Links"K Thumbs Up
Re: Routers [message #298361 is a reply to message #298357] Sat, 30 September 2017 22:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Edimax ordered,App loaded,now reading,(trying)to find out how it works Doh think Wall
Re: Routers [message #298373 is a reply to message #298361] Tue, 03 October 2017 21:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Here we go,dont be hiding Kermit Hide
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Re: Routers [message #298374 is a reply to message #298373] Tue, 03 October 2017 23:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: Routers [message #298378 is a reply to message #298374] Wed, 04 October 2017 13:57 Go to previous message
slaz is currently offline  slaz   United Kingdom
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Ok this photo is from the app you suggested i get,the plug is NOT connected yet,
as you've probably guessed i have'nt a clue what any of it means,they where all
taken from different parts of the house think
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