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Re: Kerm's XR250R Project [message #176961 is a reply to message #174591] Fri, 10 October 2008 18:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kermit is currently offline  Kermit   United Kingdom
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Thanks everyone, even AS as I'll reserve judgement on how low he voted as I've not looked at the results yet Laugh

Pads & sprocket studs still hadn't arrived at work today but I'm hopeful the front Renthal I ordered off ebay on the 9th might arrive tomorrow as the place (Dirtbikebitz.com) I'd ordered the complete set of sprockets, sprocket studs, pads and tyre locking nuts let me know on thursday after I called to enquire why a parcelforce 24 despatch email i got on the 7th hadn't produced the goods 48 hours later. They admitted they couldn't actually get the renthals in the non-std sizes for my bike, had refunded that part of my order to my card (I checked and they had) and despatched the other parts via regular post.

So right now if the renthal arrives tomorrow I should be able to get it out and to that end have started bleeding the front brake system with the old pads fitted just in case the postie comes good saturday morning naughty

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Re: Kerm's XR250R Project [message #176987 is a reply to message #174591] Sat, 11 October 2008 01:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Looks a treat Thumbs Up but what really impresses me is how quickly you've achieved it Yes Thumbs Up
Re: Kerm's XR250R Project [message #176998 is a reply to message #174591] Sat, 11 October 2008 14:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Looks great, Kermit. The only minor criticism is that graphics on the side of the tank dont look that great, but they're probably original ones.

So what was the total cost in the end? The cost of all these bits and pieces racks up quite quickly, seals and silly little bolts.

More to the point, are you happy with the result and does it give you a big grin with the prospect of riding it?
Re: Kerm's XR250R Project [message #176999 is a reply to message #174591] Sat, 11 October 2008 15:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thanks everyone smile

Rob, your right and wrong on the graphics, right in that they dont look quite right but wrong on them being oem...they're One Industries graphics (quite well known in mx supplies i think) and really designed for a 96-02 model XR as I couldn't find any 94 model graphics that would do. As such they were too big by about 2" in places so had to be trimmed and while there wasn't much scope for were we cut, we did possibly feckup a little on taking too much off the front were the XR is, but overall I like the colours and try to gloss over that bit Laugh

The sprocket didn't arrive this morning so no shannanigans from me this weekend although I may be able to get the Blade out tomorrow if the weather stays fine Grin

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Re: Kerm's XR250R Project [message #177003 is a reply to message #176999] Sat, 11 October 2008 16:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Well done Kermit on a first class job and the speed that you done it Ride
Re: Kerm's XR250R Project [message #177049 is a reply to message #176998] Sun, 12 October 2008 00:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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RobGoo wrote on Sat, 11 October 2008 14:43

So what was the total cost in the end? The cost of all these bits and pieces racks up quite quickly, seals and silly little bolts.

I'm going to hold off adding it up till my bank balance recovers Laugh
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More to the point, are you happy with the result and does it give you a big grin with the prospect of riding it?

That said, irrespective of what it cost me as with the NC30 (which i did make a profit on if you excl labour costs), I'm very happy with the result although it remains to be seen if I can find anywhere near home to stretch its legs as from what I've read recently the Yorkshire Dales National Park has used some new legislation in the last few years to close previous motor vehicle rights of way that used to be open to ALL...goddam walkers and cyclists (no offence to more liberal ones on here) moaning and complaining about their rights on these routes at the expense of others who also have had rights...hypocrits Wall

Although I do need to do a bit more research and know of a free off road place about 10 miles away called Flappits that I used go to on the old DT250MX. I also need to convince my mates that this is the way forward as they're mostly all track-a-holics with dedicated trackbikes and barely do much road riding anymore although still in the most part retain their road going 2004+ Gixxers, R1's etc..

I'm also toying with the idea of a new seat cover too as the old one while fine with no rips etc.. isn't really the right sort of red to match the new graphics...its a bit light/orangy although I'm going to try resist spending anymore on it till I've ridden it a bit. Would this cover look better?

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Re: Kerm's XR250R Project [message #177050 is a reply to message #177049] Sun, 12 October 2008 01:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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personally (ignoring my vote Wink ), id say what you have achieved here is 2 things.

1, carried on your passion of rebuilding bikes, and gained respect for the bike.
2, got yourself a top toy outside of sportsbikes....

Both very useful in this world. Now get out out and wheely the damned thing and post the vids!!!!
Re: Kerm's XR250R Project [message #177054 is a reply to message #177049] Sun, 12 October 2008 07:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Kermit wrote on Sun, 12 October 2008 00:16



Although I do need to do a bit more research and know of a free off road place about 10 miles away called Flappits that I used go to on the old DT250MX.



This may be useful Wink
Re: Kerm's XR250R Project [message #177121 is a reply to message #174591] Sun, 12 October 2008 23:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Laugh "Flappits" Laugh sorry, that just made me laugh Blush
Re: Kerm's XR250R Project [message #177537 is a reply to message #177054] Sun, 19 October 2008 18:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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RWB929 wrote on Sun, 12 October 2008 07:51

Kermit wrote on Sun, 12 October 2008 00:16



Although I do need to do a bit more research and know of a free off road place about 10 miles away called Flappits that I used go to on the old DT250MX.



This may be useful Wink

thanks RWB, I saw that site before but it got me confused with its grid references ways of doing things but I've persevered with it now and managed to half work out how to use its maps.....have always spotted a couple of routes on the other side of the valley in Ilkley (see some of the first pics on early in the thread) were my one outing on the bike so far has been....will have to try them out.

Have been way for the weekend, but Friday morning a front sprocket finally arrived but had to wait till today for me to fit it. I'd originally ordered a Renthal front but it seems the seller like the previous place couldn't get hold of any Renthal stock but fair do's to him, he sorted me out an alternative by a company called Apico instead of refunding me like the other place and not delaying my first outing any more. Apico doesn't quite have the Renthal kudos but looks good enough to me and as of late this afternoon has been fitted then chain guide fitted, chain slack adjusted and Wurths dry lube applied. Was gone 5pm by the time I was done so just managed one shakedown ride round the town and I can report everything bar one thing was spot on Sad
















....the clutch lever was about an inch too high Laugh




Roll on nice weather next weekend as I know the idea of these bikes is that it doesn't have to be nice to ride one, I'll have to build up slowly after years of only going out on sportsbikes if its nice and I wouldn't mind keeping it cleanish for a little at least.

Sunday 19th October

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/kernaldb/XR250R/XR250R-123.jpg

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/kernaldb/XR250R/XR250R-124.jpg

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Re: Kerm's XR250R Project [message #177538 is a reply to message #174591] Sun, 19 October 2008 18:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Its a credit to you Kermit clap clap Thumbs Up
Re: Kerm's XR250R Project [message #177543 is a reply to message #174591] Sun, 19 October 2008 19:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Absolutely gorgeous man, well done.
Re: Kerm's XR250R Project [message #177644 is a reply to message #177543] Mon, 20 October 2008 22:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Like a new un kerm, top job Thumbs Up .


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Re: Kerm's XR250R Project [message #177651 is a reply to message #174591] Tue, 21 October 2008 07:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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that will look nice when u have cleaned it up a bit Thumbs Up Wink
Re: Kerm's XR250R Project [message #177656 is a reply to message #177651] Tue, 21 October 2008 08:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Excellent job Thumbs Up

Wish I could put the effort in to do something similar with this, which although running well, is cosmetically challenged Blush

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v638/RWB929RRY/Motorbike%20pics/XR600right.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v638/RWB929RRY/Motorbike%20pics/XR600left.jpg



Re: Kerm's XR250R Project [message #177688 is a reply to message #177656] Tue, 21 October 2008 16:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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RWB929 wrote on Tue, 21 October 2008 08:57

Excellent job Thumbs Up

Wish I could put the effort in to do something similar with this, which although running well, is cosmetically challenged Blush



we know a man that can Cool
if the dosh was right

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Re: Kerm's XR250R Project [message #177717 is a reply to message #177656] Tue, 21 October 2008 19:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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RWB929 wrote on Tue, 21 October 2008 08:57

Excellent job Thumbs Up

Wish I could put the effort in to do something similar with this, which although running well, is cosmetically challenged Blush

Looks nice enough and road tyres too...is it a 400?

I ask as I do wonder if its worth putting some road tyres on mine at some point for that supermoto feeling or whether the grunt of a 250 isn't quite enough to pull off that type of road handling think

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Re: Kerm's XR250R Project [message #177718 is a reply to message #177651] Tue, 21 October 2008 19:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Triple-bee wrote on Tue, 21 October 2008 07:22

that will look nice when u have cleaned it up a bit Thumbs Up Wink

You spotted the dust....looks like I'll have to give it its first wash next weekend Sad
Re: Kerm's XR250R Project [message #177738 is a reply to message #177717] Tue, 21 October 2008 20:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Kermit wrote on Tue, 21 October 2008 19:25

RWB929 wrote on Tue, 21 October 2008 08:57

Excellent job Thumbs Up

Wish I could put the effort in to do something similar with this, which although running well, is cosmetically challenged Blush

Looks nice enough and road tyres too...is it a 400?




The pictures flatter it, the wheels are probably the best bits on it smile and I also have the enduro wheels as well.
As for what it is, its a very old 600 - circa 1984/5
Trail Tech Vapour fitted [message #178110 is a reply to message #174591] Sun, 26 October 2008 13:33 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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Sat & Sun 25th & 26th October

7am Saturday morning...knock...knock....who the bloody hell is that No

Twas the postman with my Trail Tech Vapour which i ordered Thursday night so super quick delivery & the early hours annoyance taken back Grin

Fitting
First up the kit looks quite complete and besides a decent enough manual with fitting instructions there was additional pamphlets with lots of alternative ways of wiring in and fitted the sensors.

The only downside was the 2 bar clamps the std kits comes with were a bit short so either it meant fitting in front of the bars or fitting behind but it being so low I wouldn't be able to see it unless I was stood up so made the decision to fashion some brackets myself to mount it in a similar position to the std clock its replacing.

Engine Temp Sensor
This sensor is maybe a little pointless on an air cooled motor but maybe not. I had wanted to fit it at the back of the engine on one of the oil union banjo's but its cable wasn't long enough so settled for taking a head temp reading. Once I get a proper run on the bike I'll settle on what a normal temperature is then set the "Warning" light to come on 10-15C above that and the "Danger light" another 10C above that
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/kernaldb/XR250R/XR250R-125.jpg

Tacho/RPM installation
5 warps round the plug lead seem to work ok for the red part of this wire. I've tapped into a GREEN earth lead from the loom for the ground that the other wire of this sensor requires
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/kernaldb/XR250R/XR250R-126.jpg

Wheel Speed Sensor
The kit comes with 3 sensor magnet options (disc bolt, small round magnet & this magnet with a circlip on the other side). Couldn't use the disc bolt as the discs bolts to caliper clearance isn't enough to fit the sensor nearby. Settled on the one with the circlip as the discs holes were almost wide enough to fit this circlip...had to file away fractions of a mm to get it into the gap. The sensor itself is fixed to the calliper mount with a small self tapping screw so it should be secure
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/kernaldb/XR250R/XR250R-127.jpg

My Mounting Bracket
Used some spare alumium from an old RRSend tail tidy to make this which holds the Vapor high enough for me to see it over my bars and bar pad.
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/kernaldb/XR250R/XR250R-128.jpg

Job Done
engine running and unit lights up ok so my live feeds taken from a convenient Ground (GREEN wire) and Live (BLACK wire) seems to work
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/kernaldb/XR250R/XR250R-129.jpg

ready for a proper test run after the motogp is over
I've already been round the town once prior to this pic so engine is warm (73C...but saw 100C when idling after my ride) and have made a few adjustments to the shift lights which for now I've set at 6,500rpm (SHIFT) and 7,000rpm (DANGER SHIFT)
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/kernaldb/XR250R/XR250R-130.jpg

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