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Bored, who me? [message #224128] Mon, 27 September 2010 18:31 Go to next message
Quazi is currently offline  Quazi   United Kingdom
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I have a plan in the making, very early stages it's Drew's fault. Wink




I went to East Fortune the other weekend to watch Drew's last meeting of the year, and it got me thinking. RollEyes


There is a series running called "Forgotton Era" which in a nutshell basically means anything up to 1988 can run in it.
It's basically a bit of fun but semi-serious fun as it is run as a championship event along with all the other classes.

I've been waiting for an excuse to do something to do with my engine, frame and ancillaries, so I've come up with a plan. smile

I'm looking at putting my old GSX (in the form of a modified bike) into the Forgotten Era class, providing I can get it all together in time and at a cost that makes it possible.

Thought I better make a start....
http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg225/Quazi_photo/IMAG0032.jpg
http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg225/Quazi_photo/IMAG0034.jpg
http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg225/Quazi_photo/IMAG0029.jpg
http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg225/Quazi_photo/IMAG0035.jpg

Gonna need a new clutch though, as the plates are blue in places with scoring on the friction plates.
Not surprising considering this engine was last run up a drag strip about 10 years ago before I run out of entusiasm for the sport. Laugh


Don't know why the pictures came out so big, as they've been resized in Bomes. think
Re: Bored, who me? [message #224136 is a reply to message #224128] Mon, 27 September 2010 19:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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My fault you say Laugh

Looking forward to seeing the build Grin
Re: Bored, who me? [message #224140 is a reply to message #224136] Mon, 27 September 2010 19:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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drew70 wrote on Mon, 27 September 2010 19:01
My fault you say Laugh

Looking forward to seeing the build Grin



you have started something now drew Laugh
Re: Bored, who me? [message #224154 is a reply to message #224140] Mon, 27 September 2010 20:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Great project, looking forward to it Thumbs Up

Judging by the carbon buildup on those bores and pistons it won't be upto much if thats the best you can do RollEyes
Re: Bored, who me? [message #224201 is a reply to message #224154] Tue, 28 September 2010 12:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I would guess that the chassis is the most important bit. Get the handling and brakes sorted first, then make it go quicker.

Keep the pictures coming
Re: Bored, who me? [message #224221 is a reply to message #224201] Tue, 28 September 2010 16:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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no speed first, loads more fun, in a bonanza sort of way Wink
Re: Bored, who me? [message #224222 is a reply to message #224128] Tue, 28 September 2010 16:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Quite. Grin

I'm gonna have a chat with Cbrgaz to do some mods on the frame for me, as I suspect a 1200 bandit swingarm,wheels and forks would be the way to go at least then some semi-decent suspension could be obtained and the brakes will be good enough with 4 pot nissins on some modern discs.

This will be a long build over the winter, but I am looking forward to it myself.

I hope to pop in and see Gaz within the next couple of weeks to talk welding. smile


I also may be able to use the standard shock of my zook, which isn't a bad shock from the off, it would certainly work better than anything secondhand so to speak and say me £300 to start with.
Re: Bored, who me? [message #224234 is a reply to message #224222] Tue, 28 September 2010 18:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I would have expected GSXR front end. Does it not share the same bearing diameters in the frames?
Re: Bored, who me? [message #224240 is a reply to message #224234] Tue, 28 September 2010 19:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Gearbox wrote on Tue, 28 September 2010 18:26
I would have expected GSXR front end. Does it not share the same bearing diameters in the frames?


Some do GB, but the regs don't allow USD forks, and I don't fancy any of the earlier Slingshot forks, having had a slingshot myself in the past.

I'm opting for something that is more readily available with an abundance of secondhand parts along with some modern aftermarket alternatives which should make it handle better making it a safer and slightly cheaper option long term.

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Re: Bored, who me? [message #224250 is a reply to message #224128] Tue, 28 September 2010 20:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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ok. understand now. how about cbr600/gsxr600 forks. the pre usd ones were raced/tracked enough for lots of info and aftemarket parts
Re: Bored, who me? [message #224252 is a reply to message #224128] Tue, 28 September 2010 20:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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All good suggestions which I wouldn't rule out at this stage. Thumbs Up

However, I have to consider that the original gsx1100 frame sits quite high for the ground clearance which meant the fork length is fairly long compared to the "Sportsbike" chassis, I know this because I had intended a few years ago to do just that, and stick GSXR forks on it, and found this to be the main problem with many sportsbike fork lengths as a doner set.

The Bandit still has that sit up type style so the fork length isn't an issue as much as the above set-up. Once you have the exhaust running under the bottom frame rails the ground clearance gets tight, especially if it will be under more load than just being used on the road.

I'm still trying to clarify the "regs" as much as I can as they are fairly vague in what is allowed and what is not allowed, so ultimately it all depends on what they come back with, but so far this is all ideas and considerations floating around, so keep them coming.

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Re: Bored, who me? [message #224267 is a reply to message #224252] Tue, 28 September 2010 22:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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See where you are going, but I thought that the Bandit front end was very weak. A radical thought would be the use of Triumph parts. Not sure how the Speed triple/Daytona front is length wise, but they all have a good set up. Most modern sit up and beg style bikes tend to be retros and not so good on the front. Having said that Onda did some trick work with the front end of his CB1300.
Good luck and keep the updates flowing
Re: Bored, who me? [message #224459 is a reply to message #224128] Thu, 30 September 2010 20:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Just won a 1200 bandit swingarm for £36, it's a start. Thumbs Up
Re: Bored, who me? [message #224489 is a reply to message #224128] Thu, 30 September 2010 22:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Looks like I've found a period race fairing for it too...

index.php/fa/16836/0/

It is a gsx race fairing.


I think this might just work you know. Laugh
Re: Bored, who me? [message #224502 is a reply to message #224489] Fri, 01 October 2010 12:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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You aint hanging around there bud Thumbs Up
Re: Bored, who me? [message #224516 is a reply to message #224502] Fri, 01 October 2010 13:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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drew70 wrote on Fri, 01 October 2010 12:32
You aint hanging around there bud Thumbs Up



he's like a kid with a new lego set drew his misses wont see him till Christmas dinner Laugh
Re: Bored, who me? [message #224587 is a reply to message #224516] Fri, 01 October 2010 19:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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SP2 Riley wrote on Fri, 01 October 2010 13:45
drew70 wrote on Fri, 01 October 2010 12:32
You aint hanging around there bud Thumbs Up



he's like a kid with a new lego set drew his misses wont see him till Christmas dinner Laugh


Can't afford christmas dinner, it's going on a set of wheels. Laugh

You can tell her Leon. Wink
Re: Bored, who me? [message #224592 is a reply to message #224587] Fri, 01 October 2010 20:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Quazi wrote on Fri, 01 October 2010 19:45
SP2 Riley wrote on Fri, 01 October 2010 13:45
drew70 wrote on Fri, 01 October 2010 12:32
You aint hanging around there bud Thumbs Up



he's like a kid with a new lego set drew his misses wont see him till Christmas dinner Laugh


Can't afford christmas dinner, it's going on a set of wheels. Laugh

You can tell her Leon. Wink



only if you will tell mine about the Brussels trip Laugh
Re: Bored, who me? [message #224593 is a reply to message #224587] Fri, 01 October 2010 20:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hi Quazi,

Post some piccys,,,,,,

SPal

Have u got a race arse for it yet?
Re: Bored, who me? [message #224599 is a reply to message #224592] Fri, 01 October 2010 20:28 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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SP2 Riley wrote on Fri, 01 October 2010 20:03
Quazi wrote on Fri, 01 October 2010 19:45
SP2 Riley wrote on Fri, 01 October 2010 13:45
drew70 wrote on Fri, 01 October 2010 12:32
You aint hanging around there bud Thumbs Up



he's like a kid with a new lego set drew his misses wont see him till Christmas dinner Laugh


Can't afford christmas dinner, it's going on a set of wheels. Laugh

You can tell her Leon. Wink



only if you will tell mine about the Brussels trip Laugh


Not a fooking chance! Laugh



Spal....... Nothing to take pictures of at the moment, I'm collecting bits. This will not be a quick build, it is ok having a bundle of parts but turning them into a ride-able bike is another matter. Laugh

Until I have some bits in front of me, I can't plan any further I'm afraid, it will get done as it becomes possible.

It's a bit like the square peg in the round hole scenario. Thumbs Up

I won these though.

index.php/fa/16837/0/

No I haven't got any race fairings for it yet, I was just looking for them last night and found a site which supplies the one pictured above, there is a seat unit available, which is similar to a Harris Magnum unit, so it will most likely be the option.
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