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Re: SPal's CBR400RR tart up [message #257158 is a reply to message #257154] Mon, 05 September 2011 18:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Kermit wrote on Mon, 05 September 2011 18:10
Thats cleared that up. Are the CBR400's callipers not the same as on an NC30 then? think


CBr4 calipers are two pot sliding type, like fitted to your cbr6fv.

NC30's use 4 pot Thumbs Up

Lloydie..... eek Laugh

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Re: SPal's CBR400RR tart up [message #257162 is a reply to message #257158] Mon, 05 September 2011 19:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I've always opted for the other cheaper fix for crap brakes..











pull harder Blush

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Re: SPal's CBR400RR tart up [message #257345 is a reply to message #257162] Thu, 08 September 2011 14:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hi All,

Well looks like I've got a set of NC30 forks & calipers, so can do the brake conversion Thumbs Up

Having had NC30 many moons ago, i know that the 4 pots work really well Thumbs Up

Have to do some homework to see if the NC30 springs will fit the cbr stanion tubes as I noticed when doing the fork seals that the cbr springs are right on the min service length and the front end, even after fluid change feels very soft.

Plan on getting the nc30 lowers sandblasted and powder coated prior to rebuilding (been quoted about £25)

Priced up TYGA conversion eek

carbon mudguard, lowers & hugger, full front & rear road kits £1350 wtf eek

Also on the look out for a decent cbr600f rear shock - the one thats on it is rank ( purely after being sat about for 10 years ) cbr6 shock will raise rear ride height by about 20mm - seat is very low atm, or maybe just feels it after me getting used to 929 seat height.

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Re: SPal's CBR400RR tart up [message #257355 is a reply to message #257345] Thu, 08 September 2011 17:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hi all,

Been doing some detective work today ready for when the carbs come back.

when I got the second set of carbs there were 4 off brass rings which i thought had been wrongly included. After getting hold of dynojet instruction leaflet, these go on top of needle jet ( why ???) but hey thats what the instructions say.

with this colar fitted, plastic jet retaining piece sits approx 3 mm proud of piston top which i thought was iffy, but pistons clear carb appature so there should be no restriction.

Have checked piston sizes using carb body and they are all the same, so have rebuilt 4 using standard needle and 4 with dynojet needle as per instructions.

Needle is the same one for all cbr400's so no issues there.

finally found main jet size 116, I need 112's which are available seperatly so Thumbs Up

I also checked to see if pistons had been drilled which none have so I can be confident that I'm not matching some drilled & some not.

I'm always worried about drilling out carb pistons, as once drilled theres no way back, but as I have two set of pistons no problem.

Drill is available @ £0.98. so plan on going to PDQ in windsor next friday on way to guildford and getting the bits I need .

SPal
Re: SPal's CBR400RR tart up [message #257361 is a reply to message #257355] Thu, 08 September 2011 19:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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HI All,

Chinese levers arrived today, all fitted, really wanted hinged ones like I got for the 929 but couldn't find.

index.php?t=getfile&id=19352&private=0

Never been a great fan of stubbies but since fitting to the blade much prefer them Thumbs Up

Undecided whether to strip out the forks or leave until lowers and calipers arrive next week.

Nothing left to do Sad

Re: SPal's CBR400RR tart up [message #257372 is a reply to message #257361] Thu, 08 September 2011 20:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Nothing left to do
then get on with the blade/sp1 cbr6/lol
Re: SPal's CBR400RR tart up [message #257375 is a reply to message #257372] Thu, 08 September 2011 21:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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saw that coming a mile off - lol Laugh

cbr6 & 929 are fine Tongue

Want 2 get this little beastie finished, then move on to SP1, was looking @ firestorms the other day. Laugh

Unsure if next project will be NC30 or Firestorm.

My back / hips really been going into meltdown lately, 50 or so mile trip to guildford the other day on cbr6, wasn't fun !

hey ho Grin

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Re: SPal's CBR400RR tart up [message #257405 is a reply to message #257375] Fri, 09 September 2011 10:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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have you forgotten about the poor 92 900rr left neglected and sobbing in the corner
Re: SPal's CBR400RR tart up [message #257427 is a reply to message #257405] Fri, 09 September 2011 14:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hi lloydie,

No not totaly, but it is @ the bottom of the list.

Engine needs to come out and theres no way with my back as it is atm that i can even think about it.

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Re: SPal's CBR400RR tart up [message #257460 is a reply to message #257427] Fri, 09 September 2011 20:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Well,

made a few phone calls today and found 112 dynojet jets in stock in windsor, so i can collect when i get the carbs Thumbs Up

Repaired (stapled) both rubber headlight shrouds back together & fitted

Removed headlamp surround section of fairing, which was very stone chipped, sanded down to bare plastio and plastic primed - not going mad on the bodywork it just did look really rough as it was.

finally repaired damage to carb inlet trumpets & polished - no real reason for polishing but figured anything that aided airflow into carbs must be good RollEyes

index.php?t=getfile&id=19358&private=0

Work next weeks gonna depend whether carbs or forks turn up first, plan to get fork lowers sandblasted & stove enameled, not sure what colour (undecided between gun metal grey or black) leaning towards grey atm as undecided as to final colour bike will end up, if it changes at all.

Spanked the budget for bikes this month so won't be buying anything else, shopping list next month includes TYGA carbon front mudguard & hopefully cbr6 rear shock (which will increase rear seat height - which on a bike this low isn't an issue)

Aso found out today that the km/mph convertor that i got removes the 180 km/h (112mph) restriction as the speedo's reading lower (mph) the needle never gets to the point @ which it triggers the restrictor to kick in, so will be interesting to see what top end is like, i'm guessing 120-125mph RollEyes

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Re: SPal's CBR400RR tart up [message #257488 is a reply to message #257460] Sat, 10 September 2011 02:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Just a quick post:

This is the TYGA RCV211 front mudguard, I know this is an NC30, but its the same mudguard and this shows the caliper set up with 4 pot NC30 calipers,

index.php?t=getfile&id=19366&private=0

Just hoping the new goodrich hoses i've just fitted will fit the NC30 calipers, quiet a bit of slack so think they should be ok.

Does anyone have an NC30 manual? I'm trying to find out what the airgap should be in the front forks, think its gonna b a bit of trial and error to get the forks feeling right as I'll be using NC30 lowers with NC29 stanions so i'm guessing correct level will be somewhere between the figures for both bikes as NC29 stanions are narrower diameter.

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Re: SPal's CBR400RR tart up [message #257489 is a reply to message #257488] Sat, 10 September 2011 02:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Here ya go

index.php?t=getfile&id=19367&private=0

Re: SPal's CBR400RR tart up [message #257493 is a reply to message #257489] Sat, 10 September 2011 07:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Cheers Kermit,

NC29 oil level was 120mm so 122 for NC30 pretty much the same.

Think i'll set to 120 and see how they feel, thinks new springs may be on the list sometime as these are right on min service level.

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Re: SPal's CBR400RR tart up [message #257539 is a reply to message #257493] Sat, 10 September 2011 22:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Well,

Thought i'd come up with a really nice idea to fit 3 spoked wheels to the NC29.

Front was gonna be off cbr600fx as its a 120/60/17 tyre size, same as standard, but wheel accepts pfm discs ( that i got off cbr gaz) atm on 893, but probably more benefit on this little thing. + theres some rim damage on the front wheel which by the time i've paid to get repaired would probably offset the cost of a new 3 spoke rim.

But hit a wall with the rear, Whilst my cbr600Fv is a 160 rear i find that cbr600fx's are 180, which will never fit in a 400.

Anyone know any 3 spoked wheels that take a 160 tyre that i could use on the back.

As the long term plan is to fit full tyga conversion, i figured it would look more "modern" with 3 spoked wheels

HELP

cheers

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Re: SPal's CBR400RR tart up [message #257542 is a reply to message #257539] Sat, 10 September 2011 23:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I like 5 spoke wheels Wink


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I'll add more to this, I've flicked through to one of the pics of the bike as was (complete Wink ) and honestly don't think it would suit 3 spokers. It is afterall a mini replica of an early fireblade and in all the incarnations of fireblades I don't think Honda has ever gone for 3 spoke wheels which to me indicates they're right and so am I Laugh

I like the idea with the forks, but I do hope you don't go too far down the changing the looks route as its a classic looking bike and aside from a few handling/braking and maybe performance tweaks, I hope you try keep it looking as original as possible as thats what turns heads imo Thumbs Up

if you end up with something along the lines of this it'll be a cracking bike and I bet you'll get a fair few walking over to have a ganders when you first turn up at the Cafe on it Wink

http://www.geocities.jp/gakkun110105/MemberList/Nc29kai/05.jpg

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Re: SPal's CBR400RR tart up [message #257544 is a reply to message #257542] Sat, 10 September 2011 23:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hi Kermit

But thats got 3 spokes fitted ! Laugh

I agree with your points but once the tyga conversion kit is fitted it won't look like a "classic" blade anymore, it will look like a "modern" blade but with old wheels.

like these:

index.php?t=getfile&id=19371&private=0

and thats not a standard swingarm

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Re: SPal's CBR400RR tart up [message #257546 is a reply to message #257544] Sat, 10 September 2011 23:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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oops, yeah Doh

Are the current panels ok only I know you said your going to hold of on tyga but if so it'll probably look great without spending £1k on panels at least in the short term till its restored underneath smile
Re: SPal's CBR400RR tart up [message #257548 is a reply to message #257546] Sun, 11 September 2011 00:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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HI kermit,

They are ish !

Top fairing - fine
Left mid - Damage to centre mounting point - did bodge using ally plate
Left lowetr - big chunk missing where it meets v piece
V piece - both fixings come out of lowers but ok
Right lower - cracked half way down right @ bottom
Right Mid - fine

Right carb infil - fine
Left carb infil - mounting lug missing

Tank - A1

Rear rh - fine
Tail infil - lug snapped off
light unit - lug snapped off
Rear lh - cracks around mounting point.

so it looks ok, ish, but aint gonna be a show bike and as i know from the 893 once i start on repairing the panels it will mean a respray and you can't get the graphics etc etc etc etc.

Thats why i figure a tyga conversion is best option as its only done 14000 km so mechanically is sweet

I figure i'll get it going with a few mods - if i have fun and decide to keep it - go for the full tyga and offload the oem panels to recoup some of the cost of the tyga stuff

if i dont have fun - get shot in the spring and make a couple of hundred on it.

SPal
Re: SPal's CBR400RR tart up [message #257549 is a reply to message #257548] Sun, 11 September 2011 00:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Tyga NC29

index.php?t=getfile&id=19372&private=0

think would look better with 3 spoke wheels
Re: SPal's CBR400RR tart up [message #257551 is a reply to message #257549] Sun, 11 September 2011 01:00 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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Not sure if its the colour scheme but the side panels look a bit slab sided to me on that one, still nice though.

Had a quick look at Tyga site (I used to go there to drool too Wink ) and not many NC29's there so googled instead and found this but then just as I pasted the img link in realised its an nc23 Doh

http://tyga-performance.com/site/tygaimgs/nc23frontright2.jpg

Then found this. Not sure how much modding is required, but maybe a cheaper route especially if you can get hold of a full set of clean 600RR panels on ebay either oem or chinese with the later I'm hearing recently tending to be a pretty good fit for the money

http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/1378/dsc01252p.jpg

http://i464.photobucket.com/albums/rr4/PARUS_UKRAINE/NC23/BehZ4QB2kKGrHqIOKjQErygYb6dBK9rWnO-.jpg

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