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Re: CR250R-3 winter strip down, rebuild and revamp [message #264925 is a reply to message #264861] Wed, 25 January 2012 21:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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RWB929 wrote on Mon, 23 January 2012 21:29
lloydiecbr wrote on Mon, 23 January 2012 21:26
Kermit wrote on Mon, 23 January 2012 21:06
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Pressed the bearings in without putting the tube in which would not push in after. Had to press them back out and start from scratch.

Been there, done that with the tube between bearings in wheels Laugh



me 2 twice (slow learner)lol


Glad I'm not the only one Laugh Laugh


theres no excuse for me making the same mistake then RollEyes Laugh

btw, what do you use to press them in, please dont say a hydraulic press as i dont have one, will a vice or g clamps do the job?
Re: CR250R-3 winter strip down, rebuild and revamp [message #264926 is a reply to message #264925] Wed, 25 January 2012 21:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I just used the vice with a socket Pecks, worked perfectly. And.. if you've a socket of the right size you can fit down inside the linkage with an extension on you can also press them out, but generally they have to be hammered out because they are seized in!

But yeah, a vice and a socket did the trick for me Thumbs Up
Re: CR250R-3 winter strip down, rebuild and revamp [message #264927 is a reply to message #264926] Wed, 25 January 2012 22:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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cheers gazk, need to price bits up, did you use genuine honda parts ? not cheap these bearing kits are they

your bikes coming on mate, whens your first race?

my first enduro is march, going to try it on the cr 125 as its a non points scoring round to kick the season off

this is where i have movement, will do this first and see how i get on

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Re: CR250R-3 winter strip down, rebuild and revamp [message #264954 is a reply to message #264927] Thu, 26 January 2012 17:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I bought an All Balls bearing kit from http://www.abvracing.co.uk/ so it wasn't genuine Honda, but for how long these will last versus genuine Honda it made sense to go for the cheaper option.

First proper race is March 4th at Peacock Hey near Stoke with Flint club. But doing a motoduro on the 12th to test my bike (and myself) out. It's a dead engine start, 1 hour of racing, 1 hour break while the kids race and then another hour of racing. All at motocross pace apart from through the trees...

I only had movement in a couple of bearings and could maybe have gotten away with just changing the ones that were gone, but I thought for peace of mind I'd change the lot Thumbs Up
Re: CR250R-3 winter strip down, rebuild and revamp [message #264967 is a reply to message #264954] Thu, 26 January 2012 21:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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cheers gazk, if i go for changing them all i will give them a bell, gonna get my mate to price up honda ones i need first

motoduro eh! 2 hrs, soon your be up for a 4/6 hrs enduro Thumbs Up
Re: CR250R-3 winter strip down, rebuild and revamp [message #265017 is a reply to message #264967] Sat, 28 January 2012 00:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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pecker wrote on Thu, 26 January 2012 21:07
cheers gazk, if i go for changing them all i will give them a bell, gonna get my mate to price up honda ones i need first

motoduro eh! 2 hrs, soon your be up for a 4/6 hrs enduro Thumbs Up


Not likely mate, need to be much fitter for that! Laugh 15mins of racing will do me nicely Wink
Re: CR250R-3 winter strip down, rebuild and revamp [message #265018 is a reply to message #265017] Sat, 28 January 2012 01:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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A wee bit more fettling done tonight as well. Got about restless about 9:30 so thought I'd go do a bit. Came back down at midnight blue with cold. Temperature has dropped a fair bit it would seem.

Anyway.. tonight has been all about:

http://i968.photobucket.com/albums/ae167/gaz_kelley/CR250%20winter%20rebuild-revamp%202011/7dc53c01.jpg

New stoppers!

http://i968.photobucket.com/albums/ae167/gaz_kelley/CR250%20winter%20rebuild-revamp%202011/c074ecb5.jpg

http://i968.photobucket.com/albums/ae167/gaz_kelley/CR250%20winter%20rebuild-revamp%202011/a005c7c8.jpg

http://i968.photobucket.com/albums/ae167/gaz_kelley/CR250%20winter%20rebuild-revamp%202011/a426e91c.jpg

http://i968.photobucket.com/albums/ae167/gaz_kelley/CR250%20winter%20rebuild-revamp%202011/bc4657b1.jpg

Front pads were considerably worse than the rears, almost down to the metal in fact. I wondered why the brakes were a bit naff Laugh

but.. buggery happened:

http://i968.photobucket.com/albums/ae167/gaz_kelley/CR250%20winter%20rebuild-revamp%202011/aa809ba9.jpg

Need a new cap!! Thumb Down And.. both of the front reservoir cap screws had chewed up heads!!! Thumb Down So annoying. Got them out though, just need to get replacements, hopefully somewhere local will have them tomorrow.

Spotted another small problem since fitting new chain and sprockets..which required a big solution..

http://i968.photobucket.com/albums/ae167/gaz_kelley/CR250%20winter%20rebuild-revamp%202011/5cf2a79a.jpg

Not a great deal of clearance there! Sad So.. a new tyre is ready to go on. Opted for a Sava Teracross SX20 recommended to me by a seasoned veteran. The current tyre on the bike is a 120/90 19", but out of everyone I've spoken to they have all said the 120 is too wide. So I went for the 110/90 19".
http://www.savatech.eu/tyres/motorcycle-tyres/motocross.html

http://i968.photobucket.com/albums/ae167/gaz_kelley/CR250%20winter%20rebuild-revamp%202011/d1eb3e6f.jpg

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Re: CR250R-3 winter strip down, rebuild and revamp [message #265019 is a reply to message #265018] Sat, 28 January 2012 01:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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While I was at it I decided that my tatty old graphics just weren't going to cut it.

http://i968.photobucket.com/albums/ae167/gaz_kelley/CR250%20winter%20rebuild-revamp%202011/688238fe.jpg

http://i968.photobucket.com/albums/ae167/gaz_kelley/CR250%20winter%20rebuild-revamp%202011/e998014d.jpg

So I just ripped them all off and I'm just going to clean down and polish up all the plastics. Not too fussed about putting new graphics on them as I'm ordering new plastics and graphics anyway when I can afford it.

http://i968.photobucket.com/albums/ae167/gaz_kelley/CR250%20winter%20rebuild-revamp%202011/07ad263a.jpg

http://i968.photobucket.com/albums/ae167/gaz_kelley/CR250%20winter%20rebuild-revamp%202011/ef194c6f.jpg

Will take some pictures of them once I've cleaned them up and polished them. It will at least look like a tidier bike than have naff torn graphics. Even though the plastics aren't in the best shape, they'll hold up until I can afford my new set, which will make it look like this:

http://i968.photobucket.com/albums/ae167/gaz_kelley/CR250%20winter%20rebuild-revamp%202011/Monster-Girly-CRF-250_RED.jpg

But right now.. It looks like this:

http://i968.photobucket.com/albums/ae167/gaz_kelley/CR250%20winter%20rebuild-revamp%202011/90df7118.jpg
Re: CR250R-3 winter strip down, rebuild and revamp [message #265055 is a reply to message #265019] Sun, 29 January 2012 00:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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4 tubes later:

http://i968.photobucket.com/albums/ae167/gaz_kelley/CR250%20winter%20rebuild-revamp%202011/60591ad2.jpg

New tyre finally fitted. I need to work on my technique, keep pinching tubes is starting to get annoying!

Plastics cleaned up and re-assembly started

http://i968.photobucket.com/albums/ae167/gaz_kelley/CR250%20winter%20rebuild-revamp%202011/3ffb2e76.jpg

Battered exhaust

http://i968.photobucket.com/albums/ae167/gaz_kelley/CR250%20winter%20rebuild-revamp%202011/64c4c0b6.jpg

Got to fetch some exhaust paint tomorrow to paint it back up in black because it looks a bit pants just now. Wire brushed up and prepped for painting now anyway. Need to get the pressure washer on the inside of my airbox and get it all sparkly clean again, then the rebuild can be finished.
Re: CR250R-3 winter strip down, rebuild and revamp [message #265056 is a reply to message #265055] Sun, 29 January 2012 00:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Getting there Thumbs Up

but talk about getting your moneys worth out of a set a pads Tongue

http://i968.photobucket.com/albums/ae167/gaz_kelley/CR250%20winter%20rebuild-revamp%202011/a426e91c.jpg

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Re: CR250R-3 winter strip down, rebuild and revamp [message #265154 is a reply to message #265056] Wed, 01 February 2012 19:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I know Kerm, I wondered why my lever was touching the handlebar and doing nothing to slow me down, now I know Wink

And here we go, almost all in one piece again:

http://i968.photobucket.com/albums/ae167/gaz_kelley/CR250%20winter%20rebuild-revamp%202011/9f1eef93.jpg

Just need to get to the motor factors to get some more exhaust paint, get it sprayed and put back on and we're in business again! Thumbs Up
Looks a bit plain at the moment, but hopefully soon I'll be able to get my new plastics and graphics and see if I can make them last a year Laugh

Decided to mod the plan slightly and go for these graphics:

http://i968.photobucket.com/albums/ae167/gaz_kelley/CR250%20winter%20rebuild-revamp%202011/Ghetto-CRF-250_red.jpg
Re: CR250R-3 winter strip down, rebuild and revamp [message #265166 is a reply to message #265154] Wed, 01 February 2012 21:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thumbs Up yep i like that colour scheme too, not keen on the purple shock tho

Re: CR250R-3 winter strip down, rebuild and revamp [message #265172 is a reply to message #265166] Wed, 01 February 2012 22:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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pecker wrote on Wed, 01 February 2012 21:31
Thumbs Up yep i like that colour scheme too, not keen on the purple shock tho



That was my failure to use photoshop correctly Pecks Laugh

http://www.spiralgfx.com/product_pics/Ghetto-CRF-250.jpg

That's how it should look as Spiral Graphics designed it, but I tweaked to be more Honda-ish smile
Re: CR250R-3 winter strip down, rebuild and revamp [message #265206 is a reply to message #265172] Thu, 02 February 2012 20:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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i'm confused now Laugh

which ones it going to be Confused
Re: CR250R-3 winter strip down, rebuild and revamp [message #265229 is a reply to message #265206] Fri, 03 February 2012 19:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The one in red Pecks Tongue
Re: CR250R-3 winter strip down, rebuild and revamp [message #265274 is a reply to message #265229] Sat, 04 February 2012 20:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Going to look good Gaz Thumbs Up

But 4 tubes Thumb Down like you say, you need to work on your tecnique. I can sometimes get a tyre back on now without even using a lever smile
Re: CR250R-3 winter strip down, rebuild and revamp [message #265280 is a reply to message #265274] Sat, 04 February 2012 21:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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RWB929 wrote on Sat, 04 February 2012 20:25
Going to look good Gaz Thumbs Up

But 4 tubes Thumb Down like you say, you need to work on your tecnique. I can sometimes get a tyre back on now without even using a lever smile


Can you give me lessons? Sad
Re: CR250R-3 winter strip down, rebuild and revamp [message #265281 is a reply to message #265280] Sat, 04 February 2012 21:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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All I can say is practice, and make sure the tyre rim opposite the side your trying to get on is sitting in the centre part of the wheel, and if its really difficult to get the tyre on, your doing it wrong Wink

Good levers and plenty of lube Wink I also use a bead buddy to stop the tyre popping back out as I work it onto the rim.



Theres lots of other tyre changeing vids on youtube to get tips from.

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Re: CR250R-3 winter strip down, rebuild and revamp [message #265348 is a reply to message #265281] Sun, 05 February 2012 21:44 Go to previous message
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I watched a youtube video to get it on in the first place, but I did find it really really difficult. I knew it was my technique letting me down, but I couldn't see what I was doing wrong. But when I did get it right the tyre did go on pretty easy so not sure what I did but I obviously did it right. I've seen those bead buddies, pretty clever bits of kit. Hopefully I won't need too much practice Grin
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