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FireFox... [message #301513] Fri, 06 December 2019 08:39 Go to next message
Kakugo is currently offline  Kakugo   Italy
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Has anyone else started getting first page messages from Mozilla to the tune of "An account is not mandatory but..."? think

I think I am not the only one who uses FireFox because is wary of Alphabet/Google and because the alternatives are mostly junk. Tor is fine but... well, no point using it if you don't want to access the Dark/Deep Web. Wink
I am absolutely fine with soliciting donations, but this new trend seems to me as a not-so-veiled attempt at gathering data that will be then used for the usual shady purposes. See FaceBook.
And if you believe the failed German and Swedish politicians in Brussels will protect you by making websites a chore to enter I have a fountain in Rome to sell you. Wink
Re: FireFox... [message #301514 is a reply to message #301513] Fri, 06 December 2019 11:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yes, just got it today for the first time Wall
Re: FireFox... [message #301515 is a reply to message #301514] Fri, 06 December 2019 19:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Had it a few times recently & ignore it.
Re: FireFox... [message #301516 is a reply to message #301515] Fri, 06 December 2019 21:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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No,well not yet anyway ;-)
Re: FireFox... [message #301517 is a reply to message #301516] Fri, 06 December 2019 22:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Surely its just the Firefox sync renamed/rebranded for this latest v71.0 release

I let it log in again with the account I already use to sync (home, work & mobile firefox) and it began to resync my bookmarks, extensions etc which is what I've done for years.

I'm fairly sure Firefox (or Mozzila) is a not for profit organisation (a bit like Wikipedia) unlike the main alternatives from US multinationals Google, Apple and Microsoft and if any data is harvested (I dont think it is, jsut sync'd) then I'd rather it didn't go the the likes of those 3.
Re: FireFox... [message #301518 is a reply to message #301517] Fri, 06 December 2019 23:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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From the horses mouth, they've built the 'Sync' so that even Mozilla/Firefox themselves don't have access to your data, it'll be encrypted and only your login can unencrypt it. This 'could' be a lie but I'd expect they'd be caught out very quickly and exposed if they did tell porkies as there's plenty of white hat hackers (hackers doing the right thing to expose security loopholes etc) out there that would love to expose a con if there was one.


https://hacks.mozilla.org/2018/11/firefox-sync-privacy/

I didn't read all the above link but this is interesting and not unexpected
As noted above, Chrome implements Option 1 by default, which means unless you change the settings before you enable sync, Google will see all of your browsing history and other data, and use it to market services to you. Chrome also implements Option 2 as an opt-in feature
that's why I don't have Chrome on my PCs as Goole didn't release Chrome to be nice, it released it to add to its ability to capture data and target you do ads and other such things Wink


and if you don't believe them, then feel free to download the source code for Firefox (all versions) and scrutinize the code which is way above what most of us can do (me included) but trust me there's people out there who will use/check the code and if any of its suspect in terms of privacy, they'll let the world know.

Lets ask Google, Apple or Microsoft for the source code of Safari, IE/Edge or Chrome? Wink

https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/71.0/ <-- this is the current release but remove the /71.0/ and you'll see the code for all other releases. The code is in /source/ folder and if you wanted and had the know how, you could download it yourself, open in Visual Studio or whatever developer application applicable to the programming language its written (C++, C#, Basic..its not Basic lol ) in and compile it into an executable yourself, even make a few personal adjustment lol Cool

I'm a big believer in opensource code and programs as aside from being free, it tends to be well programmed due to many individual contributors and aimed almost solely at creating a better program rather than profit.

BTW Tor Browser and a few other 'secure' and off shoot browsers are built on a branch from the Mozilla/Firefox code because its free and because it proven to be a good safe base to work from.

https://www.howtogeek.com/108608/6-alternative-browsers-base d-on-mozilla-firefox/
Re: FireFox... [message #301519 is a reply to message #301513] Sat, 07 December 2019 13:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Kakugo wrote on Fri, 06 December 2019 08:39
Has anyone else started getting first page messages from Mozilla to the tune of "An account is not mandatory but..."? think

I think I am not the only one who uses FireFox because is wary of Alphabet/Google and because the alternatives are mostly junk. Tor is fine but... well, no point using it if you don't want to access the Dark/Deep Web. Wink
I am absolutely fine with soliciting donations, but this new trend seems to me as a not-so-veiled attempt at gathering data that will be then used for the usual shady purposes. See FaceBook.
And if you believe the failed German and Swedish politicians in Brussels will protect you by making websites a chore to enter I have a fountain in Rome to sell you. Wink
Only use Chrome and windows 10 ,but do get a lot of spam on my Outlook (Hotmail Account) so have a big blocked file RollEyes
Re: FireFox... [message #301520 is a reply to message #301519] Sat, 07 December 2019 21:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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#2 on this list

https://listverse.com/2019/12/01/disturbing-google-facts/
Re: FireFox... [message #301521 is a reply to message #301520] Sun, 08 December 2019 11:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Kermit wrote on Sat, 07 December 2019 22:55
#2 on this list

https://listverse.com/2019/12/01/disturbing-google-facts/
Doom porn? Do we really need more of it nowadays? think
Re: FireFox... [message #301522 is a reply to message #301521] Sun, 08 December 2019 12:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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(22) Giacomo Agostini
no, you just need to keep your Google footprint low by not giving them everything easily via Chrome Laugh
Re: FireFox... [message #301523 is a reply to message #301522] Mon, 09 December 2019 08:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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(15) Kenny Roberts
Worrying info, so what is the next best search engine?
Re: FireFox... [message #301524 is a reply to message #301523] Mon, 09 December 2019 15:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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(22) Giacomo Agostini
https://duckduckgo.com <-- doesn't track you Wink

That said, I don't care too much about Google knowing what I search for and where I perhaps go next although latest Firefox doesn't stop a lot of tracking and if you need to you can always open a Private Window which won't leave any tracking although without a VPN Google may still semi-track you via your IP address.

Re: FireFox... [message #301527 is a reply to message #301524] Tue, 10 December 2019 08:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Found one called Startpage. Uses some google stuff but no tracking. Seems to work well as a search engine
Re: FireFox... [message #301529 is a reply to message #301522] Wed, 11 December 2019 13:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Kermit wrote on Sun, 08 December 2019 13:04
no, you just need to keep your Google footprint low by not giving them everything easily via Chrome Laugh
Damn it, I expected the rightkind of porn... Get your coat

Which you will get in spades by using DuckDuckGo. Laugh

DDG is a bit like being back in the very early days of search engines: you get your search results with relatively little filtering, meaning you also get plenty of saucy/dirty hits on your search.
I have been using it for a couple of years and while it has potential it really needs an option to filter out those nasty websites. No Finger
Re: FireFox... [message #301532 is a reply to message #301529] Wed, 11 December 2019 18:41 Go to previous message
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Thats probable increased the use of DDG somewhat Laugh
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