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Dovi leaving Ducati [message #302626] |
Sun, 16 August 2020 08:50  |
Gearbox
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Seems like Dovi will leave Ducati at the end of the season. Negotiations have gone away, so who will get the golden ride? Perhaps Zarco?
Next year will be a change. cal I suspect will be out unless he gets the Aprilia ride, but is it worth it? They don't have a good reputation with English riders. Messed Redding and Lowes about when they were with them.
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Re: Dovi leaving Ducati [message #302630 is a reply to message #302628] |
Sun, 16 August 2020 22:53   |
Pipe
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Gearbox wrote on Sun, 16 August 2020 10:55Sounds like they did not even get to the money stage in negotiations. Dovi had already taken a hefty pay cut, so that was not the prime reason.
Ducati appear to have the old Honda mentality, its the bike not the rider.
You mean it's not the bike ... it is the rider
Frankly their decisions are bizarre ..... They have always taken the older more experienced riders for big money with seemingly no plan to look forward to the future ... Look at Suzuki they take young talent and stick by them ... i dont think Maverick should have left Suzuki by the way ..
Time for Ducati to throw some money (and less of it) on some young talent and let them develop. Luca Marini, and i have always fancied Jorge Martin as a good talent ...
I don't actually think Jack is the man, although i like his character.
I do believe Bagnia is worth a punt, his Moto2 championship was won convincingly and he's getting a handle on the big bikes now, unfortunate injury.
I think after todays events, if i was VR46 i would be thinking ... fuck this, i have more money than i can spend.
Mentor Bagnia, Morbidelli and Marini ...
I think that would complete him.
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Re: Dovi leaving Ducati [message #302939 is a reply to message #302626] |
Mon, 11 January 2021 14:43   |
Kakugo
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The NDA Dovi had with Ducati as run out and so he has given his side of the story.
To cut a long story short, during the Summer of 2019 Dovi had a major falling out with Luigi Dall'Igna, who's basically the guy who runs the Ducati MotoGP effort as personal property. Dovi refused to deny or confirm this but an Italian sports paper reports Dall'Igna tried to have Dovi fired shortly after that episode but was stopped by the Ducati CFO since the financial penalties would have been "crushing", so Dovi and Dall'Igna were kept as separated as possible by the staff who according to Dovi did "a cracking job".
Why the quarrel? Dovi voiced a major concern of all Ducati riders: Dall'Igna continously and personally interfered with bike development, overruling the designers or ordering them to disregard suggestions by the riders. It's an old story, basically what made Stoner's life miserable and what drove Rossi to take a pay cut just to get back to Yamaha as soon as possible.
While Dovi may have embellished the truth a little, he told nothing new. Dall'Igna is a domineering SOB in the mold of Ron Dennis of McLaren fame and needs a strong willed rider (preferably an SOB like himself) to put him back in his place. Dovi, kinda like Stoner, is too gentle and kind for the task and while Rossi had the disposition and leverage... well, he knew Yamaha would take him back in a heartbeat so he just pocketed the cheques and waited for his contract to run out.
Dovi also said he will be back on track February 28... an MX track to be specific. The Italian MX commission has granted him use of #34 for the whole year so he's as pleased as punch for now.
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Re: Dovi leaving Ducati [message #302947 is a reply to message #302939] |
Sun, 17 January 2021 22:32   |
Pipe
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Kakugo wrote on Mon, 11 January 2021 14:43The NDA Dovi had with Ducati as run out and so he has given his side of the story.
To cut a long story short, during the Summer of 2019 Dovi had a major falling out with Luigi Dall'Igna, who's basically the guy who runs the Ducati MotoGP effort as personal property. Dovi refused to deny or confirm this but an Italian sports paper reports Dall'Igna tried to have Dovi fired shortly after that episode but was stopped by the Ducati CFO since the financial penalties would have been "crushing", so Dovi and Dall'Igna were kept as separated as possible by the staff who according to Dovi did "a cracking job".
Why the quarrel? Dovi voiced a major concern of all Ducati riders: Dall'Igna continously and personally interfered with bike development, overruling the designers or ordering them to disregard suggestions by the riders. It's an old story, basically what made Stoner's life miserable and what drove Rossi to take a pay cut just to get back to Yamaha as soon as possible.
While Dovi may have embellished the truth a little, he told nothing new. Dall'Igna is a domineering SOB in the mold of Ron Dennis of McLaren fame and needs a strong willed rider (preferably an SOB like himself) to put him back in his place. Dovi, kinda like Stoner, is too gentle and kind for the task and while Rossi had the disposition and leverage... well, he knew Yamaha would take him back in a heartbeat so he just pocketed the cheques and waited for his contract to run out.
Dovi also said he will be back on track February 28... an MX track to be specific. The Italian MX commission has granted him use of #34 for the whole year so he's as pleased as punch for now.
So they (Ducati) took him from Aprilia and with both brands never succeeded?
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Re: Dovi leaving Ducati [message #302949 is a reply to message #302947] |
Fri, 22 January 2021 10:57  |
Kakugo
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[quote title=Pipe wrote on Sun, 17 January 2021 23:32]Kakugo wrote on Mon, 11 January 2021 14:43
So they (Ducati) took him from Aprilia and with both brands never succeeded?
Old boys' network and all of that: the guy is basically untouchable for the Italian media and I expect if he were to be fired they'd be up in arms to protect him.
Dovi did not use harsh words but kept it very technical, especially when it came to Dall'Igna poking his nose into mass distribution and engine development, and Dall'Igna and Ducati have kept very quiet on the matter meaning Dovi has hit close to the target.
I find funny Honda over the years has been accused time and time again of the same behavior, often with very little or no proof, and when Ducati is caught redhanded the media scramble to hide from view somebody who got royally ****ed over by exactly the same behavior and seems to know what he's talking about.
But again, the media have their darlings, as we have learned all too painfully over the last year.
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